Comments on aangirfan: WHOSE WAR?

CanSpeccy, I’m a bit confused by your last comment...

2011-06-15T06:10:11.881+02:00

CanSpeccy, I’m a bit confused by your last comment, and am still trying to make some sense of it.

Let me be clear in what I’m trying to say: if you take a close look at how 9/11 was carried out, who was responsible for it, who the players were behind the scenes in setting up the operation, facilitating it, operationally carrying it out, and covering it up, you find virtually all Zionists, many of whom are in fact Jewish with strong ties to the state of Israel. Who owned the World Trade Center complex? Zionist Jew Larry Silverstein. Who facilitated the NY Port Authority’s deal with Silverstein? Zionist Jew Louis Eisenberg. In the government, who were the key players in the Bush administration behind 9/11? Cheney, Rumsfeld, Feith, Wolfowitz, Perle, I could go on and on here. Take a look at 9/11 Missing Links. That video goes over this entire network behind 9/11, the cover up, ect. This was a Zionist operation from start to finish, as is the fraudulent “War on Terror” and the tyrannical agenda that has unfolded following 9/11.

I would like to remind everyone, including aangirfan, that the only people actually caught on 9/11 were Israeli Mossad agents. There is a police report of their arrest that you can find online or on my blog. We also had multiple reports of (yet another) massive Israeli spy ring uncovered right before 9/11, which was targeting federal buildings, agencies, and officials. No doubt this group was involved in 9/11.

So, bottom line, all signs point to 9/11 being the work of the state of Israel and criminal Zionist elements in the US government. In fact, the US government is a Zionist colony, as other people have said here. Who owns and controls the US government, from the banking industry to the media to Wall St? Zionist Jews, almost exclusively. Many would argue, including you and others like Noam Chomsky, that the US is the imperial power controlling Israel. It is in fact the other way around: Israel and its international network of criminals (many of whom are Jewish) have complete control of the US (and other Western nations like the UK and France). This fact is put on display on a daily basis here in the US. All you have to do is turn on the TV or listen to any government official talk about Israel. We also recently had that spectacle of Netanyahu coming to the US Capitol to be serviced by all the members of Congress.

You write:
“You certainly won't get anywhere blaming it on Israel, which is essentially a creation of American Zionism.”

I’m not just ignorantly “blaming 9/11 on Israel”; I’ve looked at all the available evidence, done some historical research and have concluded that 9/11 was indeed a Zionist operation.

As for your claim that Israel was a creation of American Zionism, you definitely have your facts wrong here my friend. There are American Zionists, and some were instrumental in helping establish the state of Israel. But to claim that American Zionism created the state of Israel is far from accurate.

John Friend, You seem to think that because prom...

2011-06-14T17:55:53.463+02:00

John Friend,

You seem to think that because prominent members of the US governing elite are Zionists, anything the US does justifies the claim that "Israel did it."

This is a gross confusion that makes any sensible discussion impossible.

Because US Zionists think very much like Israeli Zionists does not mean they are any less American, or that they have, under the American legal and political system, a legitimate place in the American government. If you don't like American Zionism, you have to tackle it in America. You certainly won't get anywhere blaming it on Israel, which is essentially a creation of American Zionism.

"I believe you are wrong in thinking that Isr...

2011-06-14T16:50:14.486+02:00

"I believe you are wrong in thinking that Israel did 9/11. The US did 9/11, although as with other criminal and unconstitutional activities, the US may have outsourced part of the 9/11 project to agents of its extremely close ally Israel."

You are wrong in making this statement. All of the evidence points to Israel and Zionist Jews in the US as being the perpetrators of 9/11. All of the officials in the US government that planned this operation were strong Zionists, and most of them were in fact Jewish with strong ties to Israel. There is no getting around these facts, and they simply cannot be explained away.

"Sweeping statements such as "Israel did 9/11" are surely most welcome to true Zionists, since it enables them to dismiss all their critics by pointing to the sea of anti-Semitism that constantly threatens to overwhelm them and which can only be held back by the most ruthless application of physical violence against Palestinians, Iranians, Lebanese, etc., and by endlessly striving to control the information universe throughout the Western world."

You are implying that saying Israel did 9/11 is anti-Semitic. Saying Israel did 9/11 is not anti-Semitic, and that card has been played one too many times for it to have any relevance at this point.

To me, understanding who was behind 9/11 and why allows one to understand the true power structure of this world. Take a look at who controls the Fed, Wall St., the media and many other important industries and you find virtually all Jews, many of them with strong ties to Israel.

"I believe you are wrong in thinking that Isr...

2011-06-14T16:50:00.706+02:00

The queen's cousins running the show for the c...

2011-06-14T07:07:53.059+02:00

The queen's cousins running the show for the crown.

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/hey-america/

I'm going to be seconding much of what Junis s...

2011-06-14T05:42:19.585+02:00

I'm going to be seconding much of what Junis said above. Here goes.

“These neocons, wrote Buchanan, are "deliberately damaging U.S. relations with every state in the Arab world that defies Israel or supports the Palestinian peoples' right to a homeland of their own."

Buchanan sees a (Jewish) cabal as being responsible for the war in Iraq.”

Buchanan is correct here, as 9/11 and the “War on Terror” and all that entails (end of habeus corpus, endless wars against the Muslim world, increased police/surveillance state, crack down on dissent, ect.) were primarily the work of Zionist Jews in Israel and the U.S. government. There were certainly others involved, and many other power factions have benefitted from 9/11 and the wars (military-industrial-surveillance state/Homeland Security complex, powerful corporations supplying these sectors of the economy, ect.) that followed, but the prime conspirators behind this overall policy are Zionist Jews in the U.S. government and the state of Israel.

“Buchanan has claimed that the British started the terror bombing in World War II, causing the Germans to retaliate.

And he has claimed that, in World War I, 'lying British propaganda' got the U.S. into war with Germany.

The British are bad?”

Benjamin Friedman has some interesting things to say about WWI. Basically, Rothschild and this network of Jewish bankers and their puppets went to the British government and said, “Hey, don’t give up the war against Germany, even though they are offering peace! We can get the Americans in on the British side. Give us a couple weeks and we’ll get the U.S. involved and we’ll win this war! You just have to promise to give us, the Jews, Palestine.”

And that’s basically what happened with the Balfour Declaration, which was addressed to Rothschild, and the subsequent entry of the US into WWI. Friedman definitely has some interesting things to say about President Woodrow Wilson and how he was blackmailed into supporting much of these destructive policies.

To sum it up, there are many overlapping interests when it comes to the push for war, especially this fraudulent “War on Terror.” But the primary progenerater and proponent of this “War on Terror”, including the Iraq war, is this Zionist Jewish cabal that has complete control over the U.S. government, media and banking system. If you take a close look at history, you will find this same cabal behind virtually every war, particularly in the past 100 years.

Too much Aang, and sorry mate but this read to me ...

2011-06-14T02:36:02.962+02:00

Too much Aang, and sorry mate but this read to me like a cleverly written propaganda piece designed to rewrite current events whilst leaving out the major protagonists. And the motives for it all say they? Standard-issue corporatist acquisitiveness.

Hmm... I can think of more than a few people keen to have us believe that the world is thus.

But it's like mistaking the capos for the don, if you can dig it. That there are corrupted people I have no doubt and sure I condemn them. But any piece like this that suggests that I should restrict my finger pointing to the following and no further qualifies, if not as suspect, certainly of dubious value.

Otherwise re-read the article and wonder at each of those Western-smashed countries in terms of their currency and adherence to monetary policy. Without having read the whole article (sorry!) I'm prepared to bet that this as a motive is never considered. Yes? Which is curious given that money and banking is bigger than oil and all the other corporate culprits put together. But as always - 'banking? what banking?'

And no offence personally mate - ever hyperbolical, me (smiley winky thing).

Junis, I doubt if the Western elites are particul...

2011-06-13T23:17:32.988+02:00

Junis,

I doubt if the Western elites are particularly racist. Or if they are, they despise their own people as much as any other and are happy to destroy their own people as genetic, cultural and religious entities -- through mass immigration including many Muslim people.

Not that they like Muslims especially, but they like cheap labor and people accustomed to taking things on authority and not expecting individual liberty and democracy as their birthright.

As for the Islamic faith, the elite aims is to deracinate immigrants to the West the same way they are destroying the culture of the indigenous peoples.

What the West is doing to Muslim states has nothing to do with racism, if any, of Western people. It has to do with the hegemonic ambition of the ruling elite, which comprises a few hundred of the most kinetic plutocrats and their stooges, like Kissinger and Brzezinski and their puppets like Cameron and Sarkozy.

I believe you are wrong in thinking that Israel did 9/11. The US did 9/11, although as with other criminal and unconstitutional activities, the US may have outsourced part of the 9/11 project to agents of its extremely close ally Israel.

Sweeping statements such as "Israel did 9/11" are surely most welcome to true Zionists, since it enables them to dismiss all their critics by pointing to the sea of anti-Semitism that constantly threatens to overwhelm them and which can only be held back by the most ruthless application of physical violence against Palestinians, Iranians, Lebanese, etc., and by endlessly striving to control the information universe throughout the Western world.

All this is real simple -- http://www.thetotalcol...

2011-06-13T23:16:14.831+02:00

All this is real simple --

http://www.thetotalcollapse.com/former-cia-officer-israel-controls-us-government-media/

And since US "Corporations" are controlled by the Jewish Federal Reserve, there's no real point in dividing anything further.

Engdahl actually was able to see how the Fed, for a generation, withdrew investment capital from unionized industry in the US. I can't find the damn link right now. BUT. That is a level of control far beyond what even the Kremlin had over Warsaw Pact nations in the Cold War.

Peacenik Senator Eugene MaCarthy said it best: The USA is a COLONY. He died shortly after saying that...

In this article you produce a list where you try t...

2011-06-13T17:32:38.635+02:00

In this article you produce a list where you try to explain who are to blame for recent wars. Some of it is OK and other isn't.
The following is a more accurate and simple listing of who are to blame for recent wars:
1. Zionist Jews (AIPAC)
2. Non-jewish westerners (NATO, CIA, Bilderberg)

Non-Jewish westerners, who are racist, are instrumental in implenting Zionist war crimes against non-white Muslim countries even though we know that Israel did 9/11.

I don't know how you can put Al-quada in the first position because it does not exist. Btw, there is no such thing as a Muslim fascist. This is just Islamophobic propaganda myth. Btw, I hope you understand that Israel - and not Al-quada - did 9/11.

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/World_News...

2011-06-13T11:56:15.919+02:00

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/World_News_3/article_7886.shtml