Comments on The Open Scroll Blog: The Crown of 12 Stars, of Revelation 12:1

Can you direct me to the star-lore of the planet S...

2018-01-09T00:58:06.312-08:00

Can you direct me to the star-lore of the planet Saturn.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/2112197/chi...

2017-09-23T18:46:26.121-07:00

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https://www.infowars.com/illuminati-themed-fashion...

2017-09-22T07:37:27.470-07:00

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1 Corinthians 11:19

2017-09-22T05:57:16.131-07:00

1 Corinthians 11:19

Also, as mentioned before, there is zero indicatio...

2017-09-21T15:09:06.635-07:00

Also, as mentioned before, there is zero indication of Virgo being "with child" on your 2 BC date. The Rev 12 sign clearly states that John could see that she was "with child, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered." She is a virgin. She is known for being *not pregnant.* You must have some celestial occurrence to convey pregnancy (in a virgin), and a length of duration that also lets you know that she *has been* pregnant for some time - and that she is just about to give birth. What we are seeing now rehearses what was not done. It's identifiable, confirmable, and historical.

True, Stellarium does not adjust for that. Still, ...

2017-09-21T14:54:51.918-07:00

True, Stellarium does not adjust for that. Still, Jupiter by the rear foot of the Lion (or anywhere, for that matter) is not a crown. The Book of Revelation was not written to Hogwarts graduates - it was written to the everyday person who had an everyday Astronomy 101. There is absolutely nothing about 2BC, Sept 29 that matches the Rev 12 description, nor makes it unique. Using Jupiter as some fictitious crown, you might as well say it matches the February's leap day.

There is no reasonable, historical reason to even consider the Rev 12 sign from an occult perspective - especially when the Bible tells you exactly what the astronomical perspective of Asia Minor, and the Apostles was. Do not try to weave occult insight into Biblical signs. You will just blind yourself to how simple the signs really are. They are meant to be seen, and understood - and identifiable, with specific, verifiable dates and occurrences.

Thanks for sharing that, brother. Being able to se...

2017-09-21T14:43:31.099-07:00

Thanks for sharing that, brother. Being able to see and to shine a light is an awesome privilege.

Bob - I find myself really truly appreciating your...

2017-09-21T12:00:34.847-07:00

Bob - I find myself really truly appreciating your current entry. It became obvious to me about 8 years ago that occultist knew things about the Bible Christians didn't, and that we believers were woefully uneducated. What's worse is that so-called Church leaders show absolutely no inclination about fixing that situation. They've kept members just as ignorant as always. It really does grieve me to say that. I've asked our Father for help in understanding the symbols,( in astrology, astronomy, numbers, etc. ) and in giving me courage and stamina to see and understand even the darker meanings of the symbols occultists cherish and use so often ( wallpaper, indeed! ) . Thanks for your help in this quest and I eagerly look forward to more of what you have to share. By the way I happened to be talking to my teenage daughter about a subject related to this particular entry, so I know she will love this one when I show it to her. Thanks again! Trace

When you are checking 2 BC, you have to remember t...

2017-09-21T06:14:50.152-07:00

When you are checking 2 BC, you have to remember that there is no 0 BC or AD, and that there is a 1 year shift that has to be given careful consideration. Otherwise, you find yourself looking at the wrong year, of course. It matters.

Bob, to clarify, Jupiter all the way over on the o...

2017-09-20T17:13:30.298-07:00

Bob, to clarify, Jupiter all the way over on the other side of Leo, by the heart of the lion is not Virgo. Virgo abuts Leo, but is not Leo; her head is certainly not on the entire other side of the constellation. That's taking your thinking way too far, and certainly wasn't the line of thinking by the Apostle John (a sailor familiar with celestial navigation), nor Paul (extremely familiar with astronomical understanding at that time). I have yet to see a sky chart with Virgo's head over on the other side of Leo. Both ancient and modern sky charts delineate the two, and separate them.

Daniel, I'll respond to one point."Firstl...

2017-09-20T16:49:05.033-07:00

Daniel, I'll respond to one point."Firstly, 1) Jupiter is in Leo, not Virgo." With that kind of thinking you don't get far. Nowhere does the scripture suggest that Jupiter must be in Virgo. The woman's head is in Leo, according to every sky chart I have seen. If you crown it, it's going to be crowned in Leo, on the woman's head.

Bob, the celestial configuration of 2BC, Sept 29, ...

2017-09-20T12:44:22.251-07:00

Bob, the celestial configuration of 2BC, Sept 29, does not even match what Rev 12 is talking about. Firstly, 1) Jupiter is in Leo, not Virgo. 2) Virgo is not going through any rehearsal of pregnancy, nor any indication of what Rev 12:1-2 describe. 3) Jupiter is not on her head, nor is the ecliptic. Nor can the 12 constellations be what is described, since she is one of them. She can't be on her own head.

If you read Aratus' Phenomena, which was just as popular in Paul and John's day, as Homer's Illiad - and from which Paul quoted on Mar's Hill - you will find the common, everyday astronomical understanding of what John was describing. The writing perfectly described Draco as the fiery, red dragon; and Virgo, as understood to have the crown of stars on her forehead (Coma Bernices). Aratus was even from the same province as Paul. Scripture gives us this nod to reassure us of the astronomical understanding, of the seven churches (in that same area), when John wrote the letter to them.

Also, Jesus was fully grown, and an adult, when He told His disciples that the sign of the Son of man would appear, in the future. The Rev 12 sign is a future event, foretold by Christ, about a sign that would rehearse a sign the disciples were already familiar with: "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." - Isaiah 7:14

The only change that Christ made, was that He told them it would be seen "...in heaven" (Matt 24:30). That is what is being rehearsed - in the heavens, not in a human form, like it was the first time.

Because of the event sequence that Christ described, just prior to the sign appearing, we should also expect the time reset to happen just prior to this celestial event that Christ (as an adult) described would be seen. At this celestial date marker, Satan knows his time is short; he will be playing with time before that.

Here are some resources that our ministry has developed on this subject, and is quite divergent from the mainstream teaching about the Rev 12 sign.

THE REVELATION 12 CONTEXT
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4lMw4yuCqaBQWdwYkNRWDlZUzg

TIME OF PERPLEXITY
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4lMw4yuCqaBUWNNcDFKV0Vlajg

THE REVELATION CHAPTER 12 SIGN
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4lMw4yuCqaBdFEtU3lPeVZjR28

Also check out our comparison with what the Wise Men saw, versus what we have seen over the past two years. They heavens are declaring that we need to be looking up...

WISE MEN LEARNING JOURNEY (poster)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4lMw4yuCqaBWV9NenlnNzhJcms